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Radaghast's avatar

Messaging by/from the Democratic Party is generated by folks who are doin’ just fine. Good jobs, nice salaries…but not working class by a long way. To lead the majority social class in America the leaders must be *in* that class. Of that class. Then real leadership and real goals can emerge.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

With FDR being the most noteworthy historical exception to your rule, Radagast. You're spot on.

My former Congressman, Dennis Kucinich, was one such man of the working class. He told stories about how he and his mom had to live in a car for awhile, when he was growing up. I saw an article years ago which made fun of him for living in a house worth less than half an average Cleveland property, even as a Congressman. He fought tooth and nail for his less affluent constituents, and refused to be bought by any corporation. Naturally, the DNC withdrew support for him during a re-election bid, after he'd served several terms with no ties to any big donors.

Radaghast's avatar

I think perhaps Sherrod Brown, also from Ohio, is a similar figure. Don’t know much about his history but he’s been a righteous representative.

I used to think Ohio was a “progressive “ state but it seems now to be deep red. David Pepper’s Substack pieces say that the GOP has a stranglehold on Ohio politics.

Toma's avatar

Cannibalism. That's all it is. Eggheads consuming eggs.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

I like how you think!

Bill Astore's avatar

Where is Bernie Sanders finding a water heater for $400? :-)

We had to replace ours about three years ago, and with labor the bill was 3x that.

At least Bill Clinton had the good sense to fake it ("I feel your pain"). Kamala ran on joy as she embraced the Cheneys.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

Well, Bernie said that pre-pandemic!

I just looked at our Lowe's, and a standard 40-gallon model is $519. Plus installation. Most people can't do their own installation, of course. And THAT cost has gone up, as well, though I doubt the workers have gotten commensurate raises.

As for Kamala, yes, she made a show of empathizing with working people (and it's even possible she does empathize....maybe) but as you say, she obviously doesn't have Bill Clinton's common touch. Neither does his wife, for that matter.

I don’t know if enough people were aware enough that embracing the Cheneys hurt Harris. But I, for one, gagged when she literally embraced Darth Cheney, the arch- war criminal. No excuse for that.

Bill Astore's avatar

Yup. Bill had that "Bubba" quality. Some even called him the "first Black president," though I'm not entirely sure why.

Hillary Clinton receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom really took the cake.

Georgina's avatar

Thanks for this. We seem to have governments or political parties with no way forward out of this mess. Just words and blame.

Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

Blaming others is nothing new. It started in the Bible Genesis.

To paraphrase, when God placed Adam, made in the Image and Likeness of God in the Garden Paradise called Earth, he was told in Advance; Everything is here for you to experience and it's ALL GOOD!

But I'm telling you now, don't touch the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL in the MIDDLE of the Garden. If you do, you will DIE. It's all GOOD NOW! You don't want to know and experience EVIL!

Adam was the lone species among all the animals, and this is not paraphrased but EXACT WORDING in the Bible Timeline from my Bible printed in 1855: "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."

Personally, I believe that's as TRUE TODAY as it was 6000 years ago in the Genesis. TOO MANY MEN AND WOMEN haven't found their Help Mate in Life, a cause of a lot of TODAY'S Problems only now exploding through the surface and Societies of this Earth.

After God told Adam that explicitly, in the Bible Timeline-sequence, God caused a DEEP SLEEP to come upon Adam and for the operation, took a part from Adam, and closed up a different looking arrangement of FLESH around it.

These are not exact words from the Bible, but paraphrasing as a Man, reading the record, I can see Adam waking up from that deep sleep, and seeing a naked creature like him exclaimed, Whoa Man!

In Revelation 12, written some 4000 years after the Genesis record, we see, "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Back in the Paradise Garden of Earth, the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field and said to the woman, has God said, You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

She answered the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.

Satan the serpent said to the woman, 'You shall not surely die: God knows that in the day you eat it, your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.'

She went for it and so did her man Adam who should have known better. The 1st thing was their eyes were opened and saw they were naked and took fig leaves to cover themselves up and hid themselves from God in the trees of the Garden as God called Adam.

Adam answered, "I heard your voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

All God says to Adam is, "Who told you you were naked? Did you eat that fruit I told you not to eat?

Adam doesn't take his personal responsibility answering God, "The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."

Then God simply says to the woman, "What is this that you have done?"

She answered, 'the serpent tricked me!"

So the Man blames God and the Woman and the Woman blames the Devil.

With the benefit of 6000 Years hindsight from the Genesis story we can see the EVIL that comes to this Earth when Men think they are God!

Unfortunately, most People have been brainwashed and indoctrinated not to think or question beyond the "Apple Tree"

Denise Donaldson's avatar

As to your last line, Ray, Elon Musk is Exhibit A.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

Yep, empty words, for sure. Because they won't do the difficult thing: rein in the corporations and end the greed.

Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

The Politicians always say they're working to create an Economy that works for all and benefits all.

If that was the Truth and the Goal, then the existence of $Billionaires in a MONEY DRIVEN World would be a Crime against Humanity!

Then Jesus said to his disciples, Truly I say to you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

And again I say to you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Matthew 19

Go to now, you rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth eaten.

Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. You have heaped treasure together for THE LAST DAYS.

Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by FRAUD, cries: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord ALMIGHTY

You have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; you have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

You have condemned and killed the just; and he does not resist you.

Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waits for the precious fruit of the earth, and has long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

You also be patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draws close. James 5

Christian Leaders living the Lifestyle of the rich and famous never expound on those Biblical Insights loving their TAX FREE Status Quo.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

Really good point about religious leaders, Ray.

As for the billionaires, I agree that those like Musk and Bezos are criming when their only goal is to accumulate more wealth. Musk could liquidate 95% of his fortune ($226 bn) and still have more money than he could ever spend. It IS a crime, when that money could do so much good in the world.

Apache's avatar

This is a Good Posting Denise... The DNC is Coasting along on Past Glories... The Original Economic Statistics were devised by the FDR Administration to quantify how the New Deal was helping the Average Person... The Measurements have not been essentially Revised, and the Measurement Pools are Too Small... At that Time, FDR was often on the Radio giving Hope that things were Getting Better... Eleanor Roosevelt was traveling around the Country as FDR's Eyes & Ears... Joe Biden, while a Very Decent Person, is the Quintessential DC Insider, and a Poor Communicator... Kamala Harris is a Good Person, but having been a CA Attorney General, CA Senator, and a US VP, is not a struggling Single-Mom... The DNC did not listen to the Grassroots, or Experience the Struggles of Those Who Are One Missed Paycheck Away From Financial Disaster... It is said that 2/3rds of the U.S. Population does not have College Degrees, or Profession Certification... It is said that over 60% of the Working Population Live-Paycheck-2-Paycheck... Because of a Paltry Social Safety Net, Life Is A Struggle for Most Of The Working Class... I would imagine being a Working Single Mom with Children would be No Fun with most of one's Income going for Rent, Child-Care, and Groceries... Flash-Forward Election 2024, DJT's Criminal History, Insurrection Inciting, COVID Homicide History is ignored because DJT promised to bring down Retail Prices, and Deport Immigrants... These Claims were amplified by Fox News Disinformation Machine... I would venture to guess that Most Of The MAGA Base doesn't want to Logically Deduce, but rather FEEL GOOD IN BELIEVING DJT's PROPAGANDIST PROMISES... They ignored the Fact that none of them have been seen in DJT's Center-Of-The-Universe, Mar-a-Lago... Those at Mar-a-Lago are DJT's True Constituency... Bend-The-Knee, and Get A Tax-Cut!!!...

Denise Donaldson's avatar

Exactly, Apache. And when prices for necessities DON'T come down, as mango man admitted last week that they will not, he'll blame the Dems, and his cult will believe him.

Apache's avatar

It is a Tragedy that Ignorance Can-Be-So-Resilient.... Blame it Poor Schools, Feel Good Propaganda, DNC Tone-Deafness...

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